1. Here’s another that I thought of, but MMM is very much about the individual, and DR drives more toward being on the same page financially with your spouse. I remember when starting out I also was in debt and bought a copy of the DR book at a thrift store for $2. My SO and I read the book together and that got her gazelle intense. MMM took a little more convincing, but I think the DR background helped that along.

    • Tainted

      I agree completely. Like DR says, “Baby Steps.” He makes it easy for anyone to digest and buy into if they have any inkling at all to get motivated. “Even I can do that!” MMM is definitely for grown-ups!

  2. Nice post! Once upon a time I definitely fell into the DR camp- lots of credit card and other debt that totally overwhelmed me. I felt like I’d never be able to save anything. Fast forward about eight years and I found MMM. Like you I was also overwhelmed by the apparent wealth of that community and didn’t understand half of what they were talking about. But I read more, and more, and more. All the posts and a chunk of the forum. By the end I was totally convinced that Mr. Money Mustache’s way of living with low expenses was achievable and desirable and now my husband and I live that way too as we build our own ‘stache to fund early retirement. So I guess what I am saying is YES- it is possible to make the leap from one camp to the other. You can do it!

    • Tainted

      Thanks for the vote of confidence! I’m miles ahead of where I was a year and especially 2 years ago. Taking advantage of every learning opportunity I can find. If you have any other schools of thought or inspiration that you follow, please let me know!

  3. We were in the DR camp for a while. Not that I knew about DR but starting at the basics and a debt free mindset. MMM is exactly as you describe. Both provide ideas that can be used to break the cycle of blind consumerism and debt to get to our financial freedom goals. I say take what we can from any source that will work for us over the long haul. Use what motivates us and is sustainable where we are always moving forward towards FI. Some of MMM’s followers take what many see as an extreme approach. To them it isn’t extreme. Same goes with DR followers. I don’t agree 100% with any one approach. If what we find makes sense then use that to our financial goal’s advantage. There is always something new to learn.

    • Tainted

      I think any new way of thinking seems extreme at first, and we have trouble visualizing ourselves becoming “like them.” But it happens over time; you sometimes only see your transformation when you look back to see how far you’ve come.

      “Blind consumerism…” I like that term. This is why I dislike media so much. It controls our society and turns us into zombies.

  4. Teresa

    Meanwhile… 18 mos later. Pinterest lead me here.

    DR was my gateway drug to MMM. I wouldn’t have been ready for MMM had I not taken FPU.

    I totally agree with you assessment. There are regular Americans, then up a level to the DR followers, and then those Mustachians!

    I think the biggest difference between DR and MMM, is that DR wants to teach you how to win the game. MMM says, “This game is stupid. I won’t make you happy. It won’t make the world a better place. The only way to win is not to play.”

    Funny thing is, I think Jesus tells us not to play the game, to set our goals above having a lot of stuff and being surrounded by comfort and convenience… and yet, DR who says he follows Jesus is like, “I want you to get nice stuff!” (he has a lot of stuff, though shout out to his shout outs about being generous and tithing etc). MMM is an atheist, but I think he actually has a lot more in common with Jesus, challenging assumptions and power structures, etc. Notably: the MMM crowd will freak out if you tell them you tithe or give charitably if you aren’t a millionaire yet. So I’m not really down with that… Still – I think the Mustachians are getting it right, and DR has doesn’t aim high enough… or rather, he aims at mostly the wrong things.

    I haven’t explored your blog, so I don’t know if you’ve updated on this. If you haven’t, you should. I’m listening.

    • “The only way to win is not to play.” Love the War Games reference!

      Dave is for the people who started playing the game before they understood what the rules are. He helps people understand the rules so they can stop playing the game.

      DR aims at what pays his bills. I get that. And I don’t fault him for it; it’s capitalism at its best. Fortunately, what pays his bills also has helped thousands of people, including me.

      Thanks for the listen, Teresa!

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